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applications for a metorg coordinator

Postby Needles » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:18 pm

Come one, Come all.

We are accepting applications for a metorg coordinator for Dave Arneson's Blackmoor.

Coordinators are expected to promote the game in thier local area, attend major conventions, and help grow the hobby.

The Metorg Coordinator will not be able to continue to play in the campaign, but will be an integral part of plaot developmetn and product review for inclusion on the camapign.

Please email applications to: tad.kilgore@zeitgeistgames.com.




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Re: applications for a metorg coordinator

Postby Thanos » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:30 pm

Needles wrote:
The Metorg Coordinator will not be able to continue to play in the campaign


Well that eliminates about 99.99% of people interested unless this is a paid position.

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Postby Needles » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:39 pm

Na, you do it for the love of the game. There is no money in this business.
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Postby Thanos » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:58 pm

Needles wrote:Na, you do it for the love of the game. There is no money in this business.


That is the problem you can't game anymore if you take the position.
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I know the feeling..

Postby thetrickygnome » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:25 am

That is the problem you can't game anymore if you take the position.


Yeah, I know all about this. ;)
In my case, if it wasn't for Cores, Blackmoor, and La, I'd lose my mind.
It would be like being addicted to smoking, having quit with great
willpower, and working with a bunch of people who smoke constantly.

Oh crap, this might mean that until the position is filled, the P-Classes
to be alllowed might be frozen longer. sh*t, when am I ever going to
have access to Dragon Knight. Of course, If I were the butt buddy of
the Wizards Cabal, I'd have access to War Wizard. This sucks.


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Postby Ozymandius » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:38 am

See Rene you are terrible at making alliances to get things. Take a page from MacGyver val'Mehan and do his crash course in "Getting What You Want 101"
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Ridiculous

Postby thetrickygnome » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:00 am

See Rene you are terrible at making alliances to get things. Take a page from MacGyver val'Mehan and do his crash course in "Getting What You Want 101"


1) I try not to make deals with scumbags so don't expect me to take
any pages from your LA PCs book.. after all, have you told Ramon that
you and Matt had full intention of turning him into the Harvester agent
at Origins in exchange for favors. Whatever happened to that clause
about " not betraying the party i na way that takes them out of the
campaign or causes death " that you and especially Matt have? Oh, I
guess that was just another of your PCs "misunderstandings."

2) I'd like Dragonknight to be open to all players who want it. I don't
want any special favors for myself because I'm not greedy like that.
Now with this announcement it just seems like that P-Class will forever
by the carrot dangling in front of the horse. So close but so far away.

3) Not only is the campaign heavily slanted in favor of the Wizards
Cabal in game play itself but also in the P-Classes. War Wizard access
was readily available months ago and the Wizards Cabal has a strangle
hold on item creation. I'ts like like you have to bend over and Crazy
Glue your lips to the Wizards Cabal butt just to get stuff done. I am
hopeful that with the private discussions I have had about this with
certain people that this will change as the campaign evolves.

4) I'll play my PC up until 10th level and on the verge of 11th level, if
Dragonknight is not available then I'll be forced to stop playing him &
work on another PC. Oh joy.

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Postby Griffman » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:04 am

1) I try not to make deals with scumbags so don't expect me to take
any pages from your LA PCs book.. after all, have you told Ramon that
you and Matt had full intention of turning him into the Harvester agent
at Origins in exchange for favors. Whatever happened to that clause
about " not betraying the party i na way that takes them out of the
campaign or causes death " that you and especially Matt have? Oh, I
guess that was just another of your PCs "misunderstandings."


Rene first off you need a nice big can of STFU until you get your facts straight. In regards to Pj I have no idea, but as for myself I know that I never had any intention of aiding in the harvesting of Ramon's character. I'm sure if you ask Ramon he will tell you that we had talked about several contingencies in the case that they attempted to harvest him during the BI or Social. Pj and I may have joked about it with Ramon and I assure you he knew we were joking. If perchance the sh*t had hit the fan we would either do a strategic withdrawal of the entire party or go balls to the wall depending on the situation we were already in. I know you feel your input is valuable in these conversations but I would ask that you refrain from making comments unless you're well informed on the subject.
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That's what I was told and it was shocking to me...

Postby thetrickygnome » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:12 am

First off Matt, I am only repeating what I was told and BECAUSE of
the past agreement you have where you said you would follow your
Nier agenda but NOT betray a party member, this was a COMPLETE
shock to me. I was given a clear impression that this was a serious
proposal but if you say it isn't then I'm cool with that. So rather than
tell me to STFU, you need to turn that attitude away from me.

To be honest with you, my input in this discussion or LA is much less
valuable than before. My PCs in LA has come to the conclusion ( and
this is based on everything that has happened in all my years of
playing ) that aside from oneself, their isn't a single NPC, being, ect
in LA that my PC trusts. Sooner or later, somebody is going to take
advantage of ones good nature and screw them. Oh, they had this one
guy named Felician Val'Mehan but we all know what being a good guy
got him. This is not a knock on the LA campaign but a realization on
my behalf as a player and PCs. So don;t give me so much credit. I
don;t feel that my input is valuable - I know it isn't.

And if you owuld have REALLY done that to Ramon, it would have been
incredibly uncharacteristic of you IMHO but if PJ would have done it,
my repsonse to PJ would have been " So how much did you get for
Ramons PC? " beause that is his nature - manipulation for the purpose
of personal power and wealth.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled post about Blackmoor,
P-Classes, metaorgs, and the wickedness that is the overbearing
Wizards Cabal.

Signed- Rene' Alfonso

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Postby Ozymandius » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:18 am

I was not joking.

I had all intentions of selling Ramon out to the Havesters at that Social Interactive. Had Ramon not gone to the bathroom then left to go back to the hotel I would have secured my NPCs secondary objective. Trade Rhein for the life of a val'Basusciz? That was a clear decision in my mind, all I had to do was trade a PC for my guy and get what I wanted and not have to trade our items? That was a solid deal.

Why are you getting pissed Rene? Don't like the roleplaying? Don't like the tough decisions we went through? Don't like working for evil every now and then? Can't stomach the moral quandries and decisions?

I'm not worried, Ramon can handle himself, he's played Vampire LARPs and their nothing compared to what I am doing in the Social Interactives. If it is going to advance my goals then so be it. I lied to Adolpho straight up in many cases to see what he had and you know what he did to me? He lied too, even when I was telling the truth. Why? Because we know to get ahead in the social you need to lie, cheat, steal and distort the facts so you can get your guy what he needs, when he needs and as fast as possible before some other fool trades it away.

Do I feel guilty. Not a bit. Would I have felt guilty. Nope. Did I care. Probably not. Ramon wanted to take them on and he endangered the party during the BI simply by being at the table. We didn't know when the Harvest was going to come but I was damn sure I wasn't going to be near it.

You're getting too wrapped up in it Rene.

Besides, didn't we vote to exterminate the Black Talon Egg Clutch at the last social interactive? Oh no that's right! I sold the Elorii representative Ssethregoran Bane Weaponry! That's right I traded 1,000,000 gold to prevent the Altherians from getting more resources because I needed them to seal a deal. You think I'm bad, I'm nothing. An entire contingent of Beltinian Hospitalers were murdered by the Mafealans because Nice traded them to the Spymaster who was parading around as an Elonbe Elorii. It's not so easy in these Socials, it's not clear cut and it sure as hell isn't for the weak.

During the last social I was at I spent a majority of my time destroy artifacts with the Inquisition and Nierites that I signed up with. We almost had in our hands the bell needed to free the good guy and prevent the horned king from destroying Old Coryan. We almost smashed the damned thing and ruined the interactive. We had it in our grasp, our main gold almost complete and it was ruined by do-gooders. People were pissed like you Rene that I could play on a team bent on screwing the game. I simply told them the other factions didn't want me, and they didn't, you had to interview with them to get a spot. So what happened? I went to the one team with no one on it and they took me wholeheartedly. And for my dedication I became an honorary member of the Swords of Nier First and Fourth Flame.

I don't worry about the details too much because without the evil you can't have good. Everything would be vanilla. Think of me as the necessary evil to ensure that things go good, because if things aren't going bad then your story isn't as exciting as it could be.

Final Point: When we fired the booby trapped Mafaelan Energy cannons there was no body at the BI who didn't feel their heart stop, we didn't know what was going to happen, would they work or explode. Our luck, they exploded, but not before a good guy ran up and channeled the energy into the massive contingent of Mafaelans and strike their entire squad and leader with the discharge. It makes for good stories, you need both good and evil to keep a story going.

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I wasn't pissed at you- are you kidding me?

Postby thetrickygnome » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:26 am

Why are you getting pissed Rene? Don't like the roleplaying? Don't like the tough decisions we went through? Don't like working for evil every now and then? Can't stomach the moral quandries and decisions?


I was NEVER pissed at you PJ. You should be happy that I thought you
were not joking because it means I beleive that you roleplay your
power hungry aspect of your PC to the hilt. If I thought your PC was
soft and weak-spined, I would have thought you were joking.

Moral quandries? Tough Decisions? Working for evil. You forget my
friend, I WRITE moral quandries and tough decisions. As far as
roleplaying, go back to MegaCon at the Blackmoor BI when Istood
before everyone and called out the Wizards Cabal. Enough said.

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Postby Ozymandius » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:31 am

Trust me Rene, no one forgets that you write the moral quandries. Put what was put into question what roleplaying them. That was at the heart of the matter, what do you do when confronted with them? Do you let it slide by and forget that it happened or jump on it and sieze the moment?

It's an easy question, if you're a Neutral character, go for it. But you only jumped on the "good decisions" what happens when you're faced with bad or worse and in the end someone is going to buy the farm? It's easy to do good in the various games, but doing evil, and doing it consistently is tough. Don't think about how hard I had but the PCs who had to actively work against the other PCs as slaves of the Mafaelan spymaster; that had to suck big time. They had to do it against their will.

Besides, Peter's PC was an Illirite Priest who worked for a val'Basusciz. That had to turn some heads at least.

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Postby ScrollMasterRob » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:57 pm

This is a BLACKMOOR POST-GO FIGHT IT OUT ON THE LA BI SITE.

If you want to break the cabal strangle-hold on item creation, find a way for the CLERGY to band together against the cabal-wizards cannot heal. Lets see what the cabal can do when the GODS ARE NOT ON THEIR SIDE.
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Postby Ozymandius » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:57 am

Wizard's can heal, all we have to do is cast limited wish or wish.
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Postby ScrollMasterRob » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:34 pm

This is the end of the stranglehold. Lets see a wizard heal himself at 5th or 6th level. No wish or limited wish available. Not even at 8th or 9th lvl. Even the lowly bards can refuse to heal the wizards. The healers can knock the Wizard Cabal down a peg or two. Perhaps an overall "healing strike" can force the Cabal to submit to a few concessions. The Cabal might have the power of magic on their side, but the Clergy has the power of whichever GODS on our side. Powerful members of the Clergy should be able to "advise" the King on various policies-including strategy.

For instance, the Cabal should abandon their policy of sorcerer persecution and concentrate their efforts on the Afridhi problem. After the Afridhi, find a way to finally rid the world of Raddon Goss. Then finally tackle the Egg of Coot.

And we have to do all this QUICKLY before D&D 4th edition...
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