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Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:47 am

I believe Ralph, The Godfather of DnD in Miami,'s skin is armadillo hide.. or something like that. It
would have to be to juggle all the sh*t he does locally. I've always
said that this community is excessively reliant on his to do stuff - its
individual members need to get more independant. In the end it will
not make us weaker but rather stronger. Peter B. has the right idea
with his LA games, although he is promoting pretty much only that
campaign play down here. David McPike was doing a good job of
setting up his own games down here, both LG and Blackmoor before
he left. Other than that, it's mainly fallen on Ralphs shoulders.

Admittedly, I'm kinda peeved about the "DM in the hat" mechanism
not being used after I was told it would be. It's been ignored &
ultimately it's the fairest way of doing things. I'm hoping that the
DMing method for WiPoU will be handled fairly - I want to have a clear
picture of it before I invest any money in it. As it is, I am trying to
stay a much out of that con as possible on an administrative level but
if I do put money in, I expect to have a say in the process & some
form of fairness across the board.

I'm not too worried about Blackmoor. A little insight goes a long way
and I know my dwarf did the right thing at MegaCon by standing up
for the sorcerers. PJ tells me that as a result, I may very well be the
most hated PC amongst the arcane warriors. Under normal
circumstances some poeple might find that problematic but I think it
is spectacular. ;) There are other possible ramifications but I'm only
time will tell if what Ithink might happen might actually come to
pass.

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Postby ScrollMasterRob » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:25 am

The Sorcerer problem. The problem is that when we the player hear about "re-education camps", we get visions of Auchswitz or Buchenwald dancing through our heads. The writers need to assure us that this is not the case. The converted drive-in theater from "Red Dawn" really isn't a much better picture. Just have someone, even Dave Arneson himself, issue a statement toward the fact.

It's because of this mental picture that some of the hardcore arcane warriors drive me nuts, and the reason I tend to be sympathetic to the sorcerers.
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You should talk to PJ

Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:43 am

1) Ask PJ about the "re-reducation camps"

2) Besides, do you really think if the Wizards Cabal was running these
nasty ass camps and experimenting on sorcerers LIKE THE WIZARDS
CABAL BOOK SAYS THEY DID/DO, do you think that they would admit
that they were treating humanoid beings the same way that they used
to test hair sprays ( by spraying them into the eyes of rabbits which
caused them to go blind ). If they did, leave it to those scumbags to
justify it somehow.

3) Look at the requirements for Inguisitor. It requires a Lawful
alignment. Nowhere does it say that it precludes L/E. So just as some
of the Eldritch Underground has evil in it ( some of them but not all
driven there by persecution and rage at the deaths and seperation
of/from loved ones, ) I am almost 100% certain that the Wizards
Cabal is corrupted as well.

4) There is a little bit of LA in Blackmoor. I'll leave it at that.

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Postby Ozymandius » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:35 am

Hehe, Rene is become more adept at reading between the lines, it will serve him well if he decides to write on this side of the pond. For now little ones enjoy the fun, and if you get the chance when Shadow in the Dark is released I'd be willing to run it at Sunshine for all of you who missed it; Tad gave it the once over and man is it a crazy module now!
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Soon PJ

Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:50 am

Hehe, Rene is become more adept at reading between the lines, it will serve him well if he decides to write on this side of the pond.


Trust me PJ, that day WILL come and you know when.. hopefully.

The tide needs to turn and I hope to be one of the ones helping to do
the turning.

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Re: You should talk to PJ

Postby Needles » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:24 am

thetrickygnome wrote:1) Ask PJ about the "re-reducation camps"


Those re-education camps are no different than a modern day Catholic school. Before you say what is this Catholic school you speak of, there is the famous slap on the hand with the ruler and that is it. There is no shock therapy, no magic experiment done on them just good old fashion teaching.

thetrickygnome wrote: 2) Besides, do you really think if the Wizards Cabal was running these
nasty ass camps and experimenting on sorcerers LIKE THE WIZARDS
CABAL BOOK SAYS THEY DID/DO, do you think that they would admit
that they were treating humanoid beings the same way that they used
to test hair sprays ( by spraying them into the eyes of rabbits which
caused them to go blind ). If they did, leave it to those scumbags to
justify it somehow.


That was then, this is now, we love sorcerers. The Wizards Cabal just teaches the sorcerer how to use their magic purposely and correctly. There is nothing wrong with that.

thetrickygnome wrote: 3) Look at the requirements for Inguisitor. It requires a Lawful
alignment. Nowhere does it say that it precludes L/E. So just as some
of the Eldritch Underground has evil in it ( some of them but not all
driven there by persecution and rage at the deaths and seperation
of/from loved ones, ) I am almost 100% certain that the Wizards
Cabal is corrupted as well.


Leave it to us, we will weed out those bad apples when needed. For now, the Wizards Cabal is a machine humming and going on with purpose to keep these evil sorcerers in line.

thetrickygnome wrote: 4) There is a little bit of LA in Blackmoor. I'll leave it at that.

Signed- Rene' Alfonso


There is a little bit of Blackmoor in LA, a littlebit of LA in LG and a little bit of LG in Blackmoor. It is all in good fun. Remember, to love the king is to love the wizards Cabal, and to love the Wizards Cabal is to love the king. Anything else is just blasphemy. All hail King Uther! All hail the Wizards Cabal!

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Poor Edward...

Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:34 am

Edward,

1) You know the camps exist as I described. You are just towing the
blind party line of the Cabal the same way all your blind dog brethen
in it do.

2) Do you REALLY know who you're working for? ;)

3) You love sorcerers. Maybe if the Cabal would get its head out of
it's butt it would realize that the threat of the Egg of Coot and the
Afridhi is real, where as the persecution of the sorcerers is what
creates the problem rather than a solution. I'll bet that if you had not
turned to playing guinea pig AS IT SAYS IN THE CABAL BOOK then
the Eldritch Underground would not exist. The Underground Railroad
of American history would not exist if slavery had not been around.

4) You got evil in your organization and yet you guys say you're the
law and just? You guys are a farce, decadent organization that is
crumbling from the inside out. Sooner or later you won't be able to
hide all the duplicity. So go take orders from your L/E Inquistors Ed,
I'm sure they are not done duping... I mean helping you make the
right choices.

5) Again, do you REALLY KNOW who you're working for? Hail to the
King indeed... for better or worse. ;)

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Postby Needles » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:57 pm

I believe the camps harm no one.

If there is any person not towing the line, I will personally weed them out.

As for the enemies of Blackmoor, they are kept in check till they invade, and when they invade. You'll need us. That is what you fail to admit. No matter what you think of us, you need us cause with out us. Things are a whole lot worse off.
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Foolish little man

Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:24 pm

And there in lies the error in your judgement. It is true that Blackmoor
needs the Wizards Cabal because without them, the enemies of
Blackmoor would seize the advantage. However, it is not your
oragnization that needs to be destroyed, it is the corrupt & abhorrent
doctrines that you live by, the same ones that would force your will
upon another humanoid being because of the nature of their birth.
When your ideology changes and you become a more open-minded
organization rather than the megalomaniacal mess that you guys are
now, tearing apart from within, then maybe you will be worthy of my
respect. Until then, you are nothing more than power with flawed
purpose and sooner or later, that kind of power comes to an end &
often brutally so.

The Afridhi are growing in strength, the Egg of Coot is growing in
strength and expanding as well, the Skandaharians could make a
move if they wanted to as well, and how about the return of your
buddy from "A Night In Goss" as all you can do is focus your narrow
minded pea-sized brain on sorcerers. Like I said at MegaCon, your
power untied with that of the Sorcerers would make the Afridh piss
in their pants and the Egg of Coot pause and reconsider its actions.
But rather than do the smart this, you do the dumb thing and focus
on sorcerers. Your organization has become predictable and that is
why you are being destroyed. At least sorcerers would bring in the
element of randomness that would counter your predicatability.

The end is near Ed, for you and all your fellow Cabalists but not the
end of the organization. The end is near for your ill-concieved and
archaic doctrines that have exposed themselves to be flawed and
sooner or later, those doctrines must change or else your organization
will truly be destroyed not just in doctrine but as a unified force.

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Postby Needles » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:43 pm

Our ideology has nothing to do with weakness, it is our strength. You also fail to realize that the Sorcerers would never ally with us with the exception of re-education. Until any of the foreign nations invade, there is nothing we can do with the exception if invading them, and that is what you seem to be implying. There is no other course of action to take with the enemies of Blackmoor. They seem to kill ambassadors.
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I don't buy it.

Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:04 pm

Our ideology has nothing to do with weakness, it is our strength. You also fail to realize that the Sorcerers would never ally with us with the exception of re-education.


Response to sentence #1: You're SOOO wrong there that if being
wrong were painful, you're wizard would be having labor pains right
now. Your ideology is narrow-minded and archaic. The key to
survival for anything, be it a living creature, organization, or even an
ideal is adaption and the Cabal royally sucks at this because they
are a bunch of egomaniacal wanna be politicians. That's why you guys
are splintering. But then again the Wizards Cabal does a
great job of keep its underlings ignorant so I can almost forgive you
for this. ;)

Response to sentence #2: You created this problem for yourselves &
instead of fixing it, you only made it worse. For an organization that
is supposed ot be full of smart people, the Cabalists have the wisdom
and common sense of bat guano.

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Postby Needles » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:14 pm

There is nothing I agree with in your post. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with being on the side that gives you Phat Loot. The eldritch underground gives nothing, ask the sorcerers around you, and see what they say.
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Postby lostpike » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:40 pm

Ask Claudio. He just wants one mod where the sorcerors win.
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Postby Low Roller » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:26 pm

I find the arguement of "close minded" to be a little funny.
It's the same arguements for paladins.
No one likes the close minded characters that have to obey the laws of their belief system.

I can see the "But paladins don't hurt people" thing flying at me.....I have seen and heard many a tale about a paladin holding a party back or having to be tricked to help the party along.

In both cases there can be problems in party cohesion. It's just a fact that there will always be conflicts amongst PC beliefs, if not we would all be drones.

So let your PC's argue no need for us to take it too personal. But we're gamers, we're gonna do it anyway! WOOT!

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Wizard Cabal = Bilssful ignorance

Postby thetrickygnome » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:00 pm

There is nothing I agree with in your post. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with being on the side that gives you Phat Loot. The eldritch underground gives nothing, ask the sorcerers around you, and see what they say.
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It's okay. I understand that being brainwashed by the Wizards Cabal
would make you disagree with me. Maybe you need some therapy or
something. That might help. As for Phat Loot, I suppose putting a large
governmental-type organization with so much power in charge of the
economics like that is very profitable and enticing. How utterly
Communist of the Wizards Cabal. The Eldritch Underground gives
nothing because the Wizard Cabal oppresses & hunts them down like
animals. Then again, the Eldritch Underground doesn't give alot that
you SEE but then again.. who is the Eldritch Underground? Oh what an
absolutely fascinating question.

The Wizard Cabals lies are like wolves; they run in packs and tear the
flesh off anyone who tries to uncover them. You day is coming. Like I
said - adapt, grow wiser, and recognize what must be changed or be
doomed and drag down alot of innocent people. Your choice.

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