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Warhorn aquired by Zeitgeist

Postby lostpike » Fri May 11, 2007 9:12 am

For Immediate Release

Zeitgeist Games, Inc. To Acquire WarHorn.net

Oviedo, Florida – May 11, 2007 – Zeitgeist Games, Inc. announced today
that it has agreed to acquire the popular convention registration site
Warhorn.net (http://www.warhorn. net). Warhorn.net is designed to allow users
to organize and promote RPG oriented games and conventions with ease.
Since its initial launch in 2002, thousands of conventions and game
clubs have used the service to promote and organize conventions and
gaming events.

"For years, organized RPG gamers have come to Warhorn.net to organize
and promote their conventions and local club gamedays" said Zeitgeist
Games President, Dustin Clingman. "Our plan for Warhorn is to maintain
the current level of service while at the same time working to improve
and expand the functionality and usability to allow even more users to
find and organize their gaming events."

Currently, Zeitgeist Games is discussing future expansions to the
service with longtime users of the Warhorn service. "We're looking to
craft the best possible experience and we know we'll need the help of
the folks who have used the service for years" said Clingman. "If
you've got good ideas on how to improve Warhorn.net, we want to hear
them!"

Individuals or companies from the gaming community who would like to
contribute input on features or expansions may with input or queries
from the gaming community may send email to warhorn@zeitgeistga mes.com

About Zeitgeist Games, Inc.

Founded in 2002 by Dave Arneson and Dustin Clingman, Zeitgeist Games,
Inc is a game studio that develops cutting edge tabletop and casual
electronic games. For more information on Zeitgeist Games, Inc, email
media@zeitgeistgame s.com or visit http://www.zeitgeistgames. com
Zeitgeist Games is a trademark of Zeitgeist Games, Inc.
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Postby Needles » Fri May 11, 2007 9:51 am

Even though http://www.zeitgeistgames stock went down, LOL, I suppose they are going to earn more money. There is a possibility that members will have to pay to use the service since, it maybe no longer a volunteer pay site.
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Postby Ozymandius » Fri May 11, 2007 10:04 am

Dustin said he was going to try and keep the service free. It would run more like the RPGA site where you can see what is playing and where and then on Warhorn.net you could sign up for the different games.
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Postby grey » Fri May 11, 2007 12:07 pm

I was thinking about making a warhorn type system once. but they beat me to it :(
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Postby tadkil » Fri May 11, 2007 9:18 pm

Needles wrote:Even though http://www.zeitgeistgames stock went down, LOL, I suppose they are going to earn more money. There is a possibility that members will have to pay to use the service since, it maybe no longer a volunteer pay site.


Dude,

That's not how ZG operates. Dustin & Dave own a software company. The RPG business model is low margin. These guys are in this to give to the game and payback the players.

Dustin will build out functions on the website based on the input he gets from the player base. He'll use whatever $$$ comes in to cover hours from one of his designers.

Unless you are WOTC, there's no money in this industry. Most d20 game companies are run by people with other jobs or who are willing to accept a lifestyle on par with your typical WalMart Employee.

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Postby Needles » Fri May 11, 2007 10:20 pm

tadkil wrote:
lifestyle on par with your typical WalMart Employee.

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That sounds like dedication, determination, perseverance, and just plain married to the cause.
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Postby tadkil » Sat May 12, 2007 6:04 am

Needles wrote:
tadkil wrote:
lifestyle on par with your typical WalMart Employee.

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That sounds like dedication, determination, perseverance, and just plain married to the cause.


You are absolutely right and I am wrong to denigrate such commitment. I might be more sympatheetic, however, if this were politics or art. It's not. Its a very fun game and a great hobby, and I spend all my volunteer time supporting it.

In general however, it's not a viable business in the classic sense of the term. I manage a 900+ person staff and about $30 million in budget. That informs my view. I have done some serious diagnostic work on the industry. My conclusions:

1) It is flooded with product
2) It is in decline because of competition from electronic media
3) It is especially vulnerable because there is a dominant player that possesses excessive market share and can determine who can speak to the market.
4) It lacks the resources to attract top end managerial talent. Hasbro is the exception.
5) Most of its management structures are dominated by talented writers and designers who are short on business acumen.

These are all very good people. I respect many of them for what they do and how much they love the game. However, D20 publishing is a fringe business endeavor. Treating it like a mainstream industry is like calling your booth at the flea market/swap meet the same thing as a Best Buy or a Dillards. Technically both are retail. The comparison ends there.

I'll just keep writing for fans and helping the hobby grow as best I can. To be honest with you, it is probably best for us all that the hobby is not more lucrative. That draws different folks who might not love the game and just see it as "product."

To your core concern, Warhorn will improve. You won't be charged.

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Postby Needles » Sat May 12, 2007 8:31 am

No, your not degenerating the game, it is the truth. Our favorite gaming store has been in town for over thirty years. He has gone from three stores when he sold comics to one store selling rpg's. He is on a shoe string budget and has trouble keeping his store clean.

It is no secret around here how WoW has affected the rpg industry. Wizards tries to enter this industry with an online game of thier own; However, they are well behind the curve. There are a lot of complaints about the game, but the hardcore gamers that like it, like it because it is exactly like DnD.

Keep fighting the good fight, don't get tired. Most of us if not all of us appreciate what you have done for Florida, much less us folks down here. If it weren't for people like you we would be in much graver shape with people like David "Bear" Grey.
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